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Name: Charles Kendall Hatchett
Campaign website: www.hatchettforcongress.net
1. Why are you running?
The main reason I'm running is the 23 percent national sales tax, or what they call the fair tax bill, was what Whitfield proposed in 2009. Then, of course in 2010, Rand Paul was running against Jack Conway. So, they wanted someone to run against Whitfield because he's the one that was the co-sponsor of that bill, and Rand Paul was also the one proposing that. That hadn't held an office at that time. I'm in the real estate business, and that was one of the reasons we ran then. We lost the election, but at least the 23 percent sales tax wasn't placed on us. What that is is a cradle-to-grave tax. What we hear now is Mitt Romney saying the 47 percent needs some skin on it. I still think they're thinking about a sales tax if they can't get it to work some other way. So, that's one of the reasons 'cause I think that's the wrong approach.
But the other thing was this time I was not really excited about running this time. When Mr. Buckmaster was the candidate, I thought, well, Ed's got someone running against him this time. I won't do anything. I got a call, some of them saying, he's [Buckmaster] not for the President. I've had a son with pre-existing conditions. Also, my daughter was born premature, anyway, both times the insurance companies kind of trumped me. One of 'em I had a $7,000 bill and they paid the maternity fee because he never did get to go home. And so, both those were my hot buttons.
Of course, horses was my hot button, too. But anyway Mr. Whitfield supposedly has fixed that. At least someone in Congress is saying that they will let you use horse meat. I'm not wanting to kill my horses, but if you have a bottom put in the horses - usually 60 cents a pound was the way they looked at it for just the horse and the meat and the carcass. Without any value to 'em now because of destroying that market by their laws to stop the use of horse meat and processing it in the United States there was more inhumanity because people, if you're selling something by the pound, you'll feed it. When a horse got down to $12 - right now a bag of feed's 10 [dollars] - a lot of people just didn't try to take care of their animals.
But those are the reasons I got in. But really though, when Mr. Whitfield had an opponent, I thought well I'll lay out of this one. But thanks to folks like you and KET and a few people that gave me some coverage, I was able to win that primary. I am pro-American labor, and right now we have a sad situation because of the outsourcing that's done. It's hard - I'm gonna be like Bill Clinton - you can't compete with 17 cent per hour wages in the Orient, well, $3 a day in China. We at least expect our people to make a minimum wage of $7 and a quarter an hour. So, those are the reasons I've done it, but where this'll go, I'm not sure yet. This has been a mixed election. I'm for the President. Of course, Mr. Romney shows in some polls, he's ahead.
I don't know how we'll do this time, but I'm for the little guy.
2. What experiences and education have prepared you for this position?
I've have 61 years of being in or on this earth. And I've been in several different fields in my lifetime. My main profession is supposed to be real estate and auctions. I still have auctions occasionally. Because of the flat-lining of real estate in '08, I had to go to work to make it. I worked for FEMA in '09 and 2010, I was working for the City of Calvert because they had a problem. You know, I learned a little bit about how a small city operates. Right now, presently, I'm still doing work at some of the marine companies, right now, with Progress Rail. With my expertise, I'm just a common person. I work for eight, ten - tonight I think I'm working for $8 an hour - I work for 8, 10 or 12 dollars an hour whenever I can make, you know, on these projects. I know how it is to have more month than money.
And I know how it is when you can't buy the gas, milk and the bread. So, I think that qualifies me to know how the average American person feels. I graduated from Kentucky School of Banking, which is just an associate type degree. I went to the American Institute of Banking, I was part of that. I went to Paducah Community College, and then, Lone Oak High School. That's as far as formal education.
Now, I have a principal broker's license. Now you have to have a college degree to have that, but I got it where you could take the test after you'd worked as a sales person. Then I'm a principal auctioneer.
So that's basically - of course, we have continuous education in the real estate business. I had to go to school every year for a little bit, or at least, take a test, sort of a fresh up.
I'm really wanting to try to do things that make common sense and help the American person to have a better life right now. I think there's a lot of us hurt, even me. I have trouble sometimes making it because of the way the electric bills run, and of course, gas prices. Lots of things seem to wreck your budget.
As far as formal education, I'm not a lawyer. And I did - the highest position I ever held, I was president of US Slag for a couple years. What that was, was in the '70s that's when they were moving the smokestack industry out of the United States, and we went in and would refurbish the land where they put their fills, you know, they put the sand and the forms out for doing the cast iron. That was about the only thing that I've done, we did it in Illinois and Indiana. Of course, we were based here in Kentucky. We had to market it all over the United States, and I was involved. At that time the Jewish market was the only way you could sell the scrap iron, and we had to deal with that. So, as far as having some kind of experience outside of mainly local things, that was my only occupation I had where I had to deal with pretty much United States buyers. Also it was a real tough market then. They didn't like a gentile being in the business. Later, we had to close it, and when we did, the people that bought us out, they still call their business Hatchet. I think they're still operating that way, which is H-a-t-c-h-e-t, and my name, of course, is H-a-t-c-h-e-t-t, but they are operating that still. It's just a way that you could reclaim.
It was probably the first type of recycling form of an industry that was ever formed. Of course, now we recycle aluminum and everything else. It was a throw-away world before we had that process.
If I can make a difference, I want to put a council in the district and make a change in the way we do business. I want the people to be more involved. I'm gonna get out and I have to get out to let the election test whether or not that'll work. You know, after I have tried that in the First District, we want to put it up for a vote. If they don't vote me out the first term, then I'll probably have to get out after two terms in order to prove it 'cause what we're wanting to do, is it would eventually be a Republicrat council. The state senators will have to pick the person would who would be a councilperson in our district, the U.S. District, as far as the House of Representatives.
3. Marion County is a new addition to the First Congressional District. What steps are you taking to learn about this community?
You're right below My Old Kentucky Home. I met with your mothers of, I'll blow this, let's see the mother home there [The Motherhouse], the Motherhouse at Loretto. I'm I right? Is that the right town? [Yes.] I had a little speaking engagement, and Mr. Whitfield was there not too many weeks ago. And tonight [Oct. 18], I'm going to your town, which is Lebanon, right? You're in Lebanon. I think it's Theresa Rakes is her name. Now, I'm bad on this when I've just heard their names one or two times. I think that's the lady who's overseeing this. It's more or less a Democrat rally. So I'll be there tomorrow night [Oct. 18], and I have to come back 'cause I'm still working. It's a long way where you are back to the far end of Western Kentucky, especially if you're driving and then have to drive back.
And that's another reason we think we need a council. You guys are, of course, part of the reason they keep adding on there is the First District is not keeping up with population like the other districts are. They keep adding a county on so we can still be balanced with, I think they're shooting for around 720,000 is the figure. Basically, we have 315 million, I think, now at the present count. Just a few days ago that was in the Kentucky Gazette. Of course, you got 430 districts. Kentucky is the long district for the First District. We go around Henderson and Bowling Green, I mean, Bowling Green and Owensboro is the Second District, and we go around all the way to where you are. And then there's a little bit I think in Washington County.
Anyway, it's pretty country. I love that far that the mothers have there. That's a beautiful farm. I believe if you were looking at some place that would be pretty close to heaven, I think that's pretty close. My dream used to be to be a farmer. I raised cattle for a long time. I haven't got any now. I've got horses now. They're a liability, but I still keep 'em. But used to that was my dream to have a cattle like something they have on theirs.
4. The Affordable Health Care Act, or Obamacare, has been a divisive issue both in Congress and among the general public. Do you supporting keeping the law in place, repealing it or revising it? Why?
I would like to, as we go through this, you know, there may be a possibility that some things need to be amended or revised, but the principles of it to have every American have health care is what we go to do. The Republicans if they throw it out and start all over. You know, nothing's all good and nothing's all bad. There's got to be some of the things that they feel would actually be right about this. But they say repeal it all. The main thing that I like about it are preexisting conditions are taken care of. I had a son that was born an an aorta valve, and all my younger life, any time he got up a little bit we had to have a surgery on him. You know, there was no help then. The insurance companies usually kept you with a pre-existing condition, they either penalized you of didn't allow you to have any coverage.
You know this is somehting that wrecks a lot of families. The other thing is at my age I don't have any health insurance right now. If I had a heart attack, you know a $100,000 procedure - right now, my family has a trust and we sold our property to the trust, but still, I would be devastated. You know, it's a shame to have a three-day problem that wipes out 40 years of work, you know, over one illness. A lot of it's because the costs are so high with health care, they need to work on it.
When you buy a bottle of peroxide that you can buy at any Dollar General of Wal-mart for $2, you get charged for hundreds of dollars on your bill. Egg shell mattress that's $16, they charge out at $650 just depending on what the hospital wants to do to you. You know, I think you'd almost want to pack a bottle of peroxide to take in there with you. It's just their costs are so excessive. A doctor has to work close to a minimum of $300 an hour. That's what they try to get. Of course, you know a surgeon's a lot higher than that. And here we are working for eight, 10, 12 dollars an hour. It's nothing like the old days where the doctor would work for chickens with the living in the community in a normal house. It's pretty hard to show the cost of medicine with the lower end people on how they would pay their way out of it.
5. Unemployment was above 8 percent nationally and in Kentucky for years. What can the government do, if anything, to encourage job creation?
Well, you know, everybody wants to talk about trickle down, and they've always thought that, you know, you give more help to the rich and finally then there'd be more opportunity for the poor people. But Wal-mart is a good example. Here you have Mr. Walton's son's wife. The boy, the man, Sam's son, died and his wife is the richest woman in the world at $23 and a half billion. Her sister in law, which isMr. Sam's daughter, is the second richest woman in the world at $22 billion. Then they go down to the smallest person in Wal-mart, which would be their workers in the Orient in the family of Wal-mart, well their at 23 cents an hour in 2010. The documentary, I think was actually made in 2009. It was on KET, and I think it's been on Current TV recent, and they were making 23 cents an hour. And I had a lady now that told me in the name of bonus, the guy who was in, over that department made $22 million or $23 million, according to the documentary. But today, they've took three more cents an hour off that. That was in 2011, and they're thinking about three more cents in 2012. So, they're working for 17 cents an hour. So the trickle down is pretty tough when you look at what they really want to pay. Big companies, what they really want to pay is nothing, and what they really want to pay in taxes is nothing. Our forefathers lost their fortunes, you know, to form this country, and now we got people making a fortune trying to outsource the American way of life down to pennies on the dollar.
It's sort of like the horses. When labor's not worth anything, you kind of take advantage of it. But, anyway, this has got, there needs to be something down. They charged 17 cents an hour out in their retail products at $14 and 95 cents an hour. My belief is since we legislate $7 and a quarter an hour, we should not let a company that outsources pay less than seven and a quarter an hour. Of course, most of them would probably not do that. I think they should be subject to a tariff and that would be a good way to raise a lot of revenue real quickly if they don't want to pay at least a living wage. They're charging it to us in retail price at $14.95. They still would be doubling their money.
But now, that's not a popular thing. Mr. Romney and his Bain Capital, you know, he's doing that same process to make his millions of dollars. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to turn a 15 to 20 dollar an hour into something that 20 or 30 cents an hour and make a profit.
6. Energy policies remain a big issue for the future of America. What approach should the United States take to meet those future energy needs?
Well, right here in far western Kentucky coal is in trouble because of the new mandate on the CO2, new coal operations, you know, you can only have 1,000 pounds of CO2. Mr. Whitfield, he tells me there are other things that are happening, too, that holds coal back. They're blaming the EPA, and the EPA is part of it, but what we really gotta do is clean the earth up. But the same thing there is with the labor. If we're gonna clean up here and industry leaves us, they I think they ought to be penalized and not letting 'em sell their products here. But anyway, you know, basically, you know, the pre-existing plants, if we could refurbish 'em , and not just burn coal, but burn pure Kentucky coal again. You know, the one at Shawnee is down. It's been down a long time, and it can burn pure Kentucky coal. Most of our Kentucky coal isn't sold without being blended because of the high sulphur in it, and it's been like that for years. But we have, you know, a process where we can burn the coal and eliminate the sulphur in it. You know, two tons of our coal is equal to three tons of the western, I'm talking about western states' coal, like Wyoming and those states. Our coal is better. And you wouldn't have the transportation of getting it all the way here, and you would have less fly ash, and you'd have less bottoms. If we're going to burn coal at all, we need to burn Kentucky coal 'cause it gives you more bang for the buck and so does southern Illinois coal.
The other thing we have here is we have hydrogen possibilities here because of the hydro power, too, the dams in Kentucky, now we've got the Smithland Dam power, and there there's lots of thsee little units that they say is in the works. Since we have four rivers running through here and we have a lot os streams. We have more shoreline in Kentucky than Florida. Actually, we could put actually these smaller units And one of these units, they're telling me, can produce as much as 20 windmills. It just does it with the current of the river. So, there's a lot of technology we need to look at that gives us clean electricity. But the hydrogen is one that's a sleeper. In a couple countries now, they have hydrogen in electric plants. Of course, the hydrogen with cars, we lose about 40 percent of the fuel, you know, on a diesel, out the tail pipe. There's hydrogen ways to add that do it. You see gasoline stations with hydrogen that will help that to burn. So, I think we need to look at all those things. Of course, nitrogen's formed by the air, and hydrogen's formed by water, and they're clean. In Kentucky, we're really blessed with water, and anything that we could do with that, you know, I think would be great.
Especially, these little units, if they're equal to 10 windmills, we ought to scatter them things all up and down the Ohio River and the Tennessee River and the Cumberland River, I guess every river, Green River, Clark's River, and we could be quite a bit energy efficient. God has blessed us here with at least water. Of course, we thought this year with the drought, we wasn't gonna make it, but it's raining again now, but that would be one of our easy, clean ways to go. We really don't have the wind, I know there is some wind power in eastern Kentucky where they've done the mountain top removal, some of those them there things like that. But really water is our best asset for the green technology.
7. The federal debt and the federal deficit continue to affect budget and policy decisions. What steps should the government take to eliminate the deficit and pay down the debt?
Well, I'm, like I said, we heard Mr. Romney talk about the 47 percent. We need to protect our seniors for sure, and we need to protect those who are disabled. But I think we're going to have to look at taking cuts, and also we're going to have to have some increases. I'm for the Buffett tax. I think you're going to have to tax the super-rich. If you look at the Wal-mart scenario where they're making $23 billion and they're paying 17 cents, and also, another factor, Mr. Sam's original employees, they make a fairly decent wage. But now the newer employees of Wal-mart are usually minimum wage and at about 30 hours they offer 'em health care benefits. But most of 'em can't pay it because they don't make enough money. And I think it's like a $70 every two weeks they take out. So, basically those people don't have any insurance and they have children that have sicknesses and they have not only Medicaid expense, but they also have food stamps they have to have. And then those same employees also get rebated at the end of the year because they have enough money to have the earned income credit if they have children or even if they don't have children because their wages are so low. Actually, the Wal-mart workers have, and I could be misquoting this, a $1.5 billion cost to the United States. Well, why would we let them make $23 billion and us pay the tab because they are playing a game right on the edge with their local, domestic labor that's in the United States and then slave labor in the Orient and also in Mexico, they pay a real low wage, not exactly that low, but they're $3 an hour or less. Why would we let them get away with that without paying more taxes? Actually, they're working a way to manipulated the government to pay a lot of the expense of their employees.
So, I think you're going to have to have more taxes, but it's going to have to be at the upper end.
8. Democrats and Republicans in Washington have been at odds with one another over what, if any, tax cuts put in place under the previous administration should be extended. What do you believe should be done?
I think that President Obama's got the right idea that [$]250,000 and down, you might extend the tax cuts to the middle class and down to the small businesses. But you got to have the money from somewhere. We just can't keep letting it go. Now, also, we do need to look at a lot of projects that need to be cut out, probably. But I think you need to be careful that you're not hurting someone who paid in their fair share in their past or like our military. You know the 47 percent that he's [Romney] talking about are - moochers, I guess, would be the right term for the Republicans - a lot of them are disabled veterans, and I would like to see for us to help a lot of those veterans that are in higher rent districts, like Chicago and the west, L.A. And California towns to come here and live in Kentucky. I'd like for 'em first to visit here and then see if they'd choose this as their old Kentucky home. If we could recruit four or five thousand of those guys to come live here, we've got the housing for 'em. A lot of 'em not only have income from being disabled in the wars, Iraq wars, Afghanistan war and other wars prior to that, but they also have caregivers that have income. You know, we could use all that here and it would also give us a little in some of the housing sales and rental places. The other thing it would do, a lot of the houses would have to be revamped to be handicapped accessible, which would create a lot of jobs. Even if we can't land a factory, we could sure court 'em here. If they didn't think they were in heaven when the got here, it would be sure close to paradise. You know the ones that have got the post-traumatic stress, we've got the trails and we got fishing and a lot of things, horseback riding. We got a lot of things that are supposedly good for people that have that problem. But I mean, you know, as a whole, it's not an easy answer. It's not an easy thing. But the seniors, of course, I believe - Congressman Whitfield's fair tax bill was placing the 23 percent on the seniors, which means the 23 percent more for assisted living, 23 percent more for a nursing home, 23 percent more for an electric bill. Those people think they're out from under the problem, and here you would just really devastate them with a fair tax like that, or a flat tax, however you want to call it. But they've already paid their dues in and were expecting the golden years to be good. I don't think you should wreck them just to figure out a way to come up with income to balance this thing out.
And get the jobs back, of course, would be the answer, too. You're gonna have to do something with a plan. Like Bill Clinton, I can do the math. Nobodies gonna pick a job out in the United States when they can pay 17 cents for slave labor. And when I say slave labor, our hearts are no different than the Civil War. The difference was then we went and got people and brought 'em here to enslave 'em. Now we go where they're at and enslave 'em where they are. Most of these people that are working in those conditions are charged for the cubicle they live in, the food. This is really abusive when you really get down to it. We need to, we need some ethical companies with integrity. You know, Henry Ford, he didn't have a union, but he said if you want to work for Ford Motor Company, he was going to make sure his employees could buy a Ford every year if they wanted to. Back when it was 50 cents a day was the wages, he raised 'em to $4 a day so that they could buy a car because he couldn't sell 'em without having people make more money. And you know we need to look at it like that.
Thomas Edison did the same thing with electrical workers. He wanted everyone to have electricity, and he raised his wages 800 percent just like Ford did in that time period so that people could put electricity in their houses. There was a guy named Firestone, and that 's Harvey Firestone of Firestone tire, he fought 'em a little bit. This was in Detroit. He wanted to pay 'em 50 cents an hour because he thought that's all an American would ever be worth. And Ford told him if you want to put your tires on my car, you're going to pay $4 a day. And sure enough, then Firestone paid $4 a day.
So, we need some people like that to come out of the woodwork that's got some new ideas and wants to pay money. And we got a lot of debt, we need to make a lot of money.
9. Congress has not yet approved a Farm Bill. How important is this legislation? How much of a priority will it be for you if you are (re)elected?
I'm planning on having a council in the district, and for decisions like that, the Farm Bill, I would like to have the farmers advise me on what they want. I would put somebody that was a bigger farmer in with a family farmer, and I'd even want to maybe send emails or contact the ones in the district on how this legislation needs to effect 'em because what's been happening in the past, we kind of - what I'm saying, as a nation, our Congressmen put their finger up and kind of see which way the winds blowing and try to get a check for a donation or try to be where they won't lose any votes.
Definitely, we need to have a way to have food. That's our biggest asset. We produce most of the food for a lot of the world, and we need to be able to continue to do that. But we also need to take care of the land. And I know they were doing away with a lot of the CRP programs now and changing things around. And trying to stop those payments like that. But whatever we do, we need to have people who have the right knowledge on what to do rather than our Congressman who's never drove a tractor. I have been around farming most of my life. Like I said, we had cattle, and we used to have tobacco, and of course, we still have horses. Most of my horse deal, well now I trying to rescue some horses that are unwanted and hopefully find a home for 'em.
But it's not profitable. My horse business is a loser, so I guess it'd be a hobby since you don't make any money with it. I would want to consult the family farmers. I'd want to consult the corporate farmers. I'd like to wish we could go back to the Willie Nelson ideas a few years ago, which was a few cows, a couple of hogs and a yard full of chickens. But America now, we have large feed lots. That's another thing to worry about on PETA people. Like Mr. Whitfield, legislation they think might come up one day would stop feedlots in the United States. What that'll do is just push 'em into Canada or also maybe to Mexico and make it further and make our meat more costly. I do think we to look into those things because it shows cattle standing waist-deep in manure and mud. The same thing with the, well, the hogs we know have got to be taken care of . Usually you have flat floors where that stuff is falling out, but then it has to be put out on the land. And you know, like here, we have a hog feedlot near my house. They have an acreage farm that they spread one. Like they said, when they spread that on there, it's like 60,000 people went out back there and went to the bathroom. They put it one there. If we have a heavy rain, a lot of times it goes right down in there into the streams. A lot of people have shallow wells here, and a lot of times you can have the smell of that feedlot manure in your water, you know, because he have gravel here where it seaps right down to the water level.
You know there needs to be a lot of thought into the farming practices where you don't - of course, we drink bottled water, but I used to kid some of my family, I said, when you come out here the day after they do that, you may be bathing in pig poop. That's the said thing to say but it's that bad sometimes. But anyway, we need to use common sense and we need to keep the food going. But I think the people that actually are doing the job need to make that decision. That's why I want a council. With education, I want a teacher and maybe somebody like a superintendent of schools to help me make those decisions. With anything to do with the Farm Bill, I would want farmers from all sides to help me with that.
And I think that will be no problem. In the First District, I think there are lots of people willing to be helpful without charging even, but if they did charge, I would have to pay 'em in some way if we have to pay 'em out of my salary. That's my plan.
10. Turning to foreign policy, the United States has maintained a military presence in Afghanistan for more than a decade, and more than 2,000 troops have died in that time. A 2014 troop withdrawal has been proposed by the Obama Administration. How should the United States determine when troops stationed in that country will return home?
Well I'm gonna be trusting that the President and the leadership of the country knows what they're doing. He did get 'em out of Iraq, and of course, he got bin Laden. So I'm going with the President and his policy to get 'em out by 2014. I hear yeas and nays on that. But the fact that they set the date and told 'em that is the date so that they're trying to hit that target. I'm talking about Afghan people, the Afghanistan people. I think it's the best policy for right now. We need to be careful.
I like his drone idea where he goes after the head of these things without shock-and-awe like Bush Administration did. Of course Romney, right now, he's beating the war drums and wants to be the mightiest army in the world. He wants it to return to where we put fear out there with our power.
But the shock-and-awe and you'd have to pay somebody to come back and rebuild it. That doesn't really make much sense, That part of the expense and problems we've created by playing that type of game. I like his drone policy. Just like the guys that killed the ambassador and those other three men, if he can locate 'em and he figures out a way to get them without blowing up innocent people over there, God bless him.
We need to pray for this nation all the time in Jesus name. I know that's not politically correct, but we need to pray to the God of the Bible to know what we're doing because we do have a delicate situation with these Muslim countries. You know, when you read in the Bible and it talks about the free woman and then the bond woman, even one of the Kennedy boys - I heard him a Murray State a few years ago. - a thousand-year fistfight has been going in most of those places a long time. It's pretty hard to get in the middle of something that can't be fixed anyway.
So, like I said, I'm gonna trust the President on what he's doing, but I'll pray for him because I don't know that if any man knows exactly knows what to do on some of this. We used to believe that it was one nation under God. I believe it was Eisenhower that was one of the ones that put that into the pledge. We need to go back to believing do unto others as you would have them do do unto you. If it's something that just cannot be settled or fixed, sometimes staying out of it and letting it work itself out is better than trying to intervene all the time.
But that's my opinion, and I'm not trying to act like an expert because I sure wouldn't consider myself an expert on foreign affairs.
But I would do the same thing on that with a council. I'd ask some of our ex-military people that live here what they think, and try to, if we have a vote come up, and it's pretty decisive, I think we need to get as much input as we can from military that are retired here or active here or reserves here on what they think we need to do. But still we go to trust the leadership of the United States, commanders, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, on their decisions and pray for 'em every day that they make the right decision.
We sure have a world that's got a lot of turmoil don't we.
11. What lessons should we learn from the recent events in Libya, Syria and other parts of the Middle East?
Well, I think that, you know, President Obama is very sensitive. There's a lot of people who say, well, he's a Muslim. Well, I don't think he's a Muslim as long as he's living with Michelle. She shows too much skin. I don't think he's going to be Muslim as long as he's married to her. But, or those girls. I will say he handled the bin Laden funeral in a way that I wouldn't have thought about. I might have thought of it, but I think you have to be sensitive to these people, what they're doing and how they feel, things like that, because of his study. I don't think he really knew his father that much, but because of his study about Muslim families and trying to find hisself as a young man, I think President Obama has a lot advantage right now in working. Of course, the other thing, he is a man of color. He has a Nobel Peace Prize. He's got a lot of advantages in that Romney doesn't have. No offense, but if the white man, if you ask the Indians, we never were real good to trust, you know.
The other thing is that you can't let them see weakness, and Romney stresses and stresses that. But for us to go around blowing people up just because we feel we got to be the police, I think that we need to go to defend more than attack. I think we do have an obligation to take care of Israel because there were two nations formed under God, or formed with God in mind, of course, Israel and the United States. And we have an obligation to Israel. Our country was the one that cast the deciding vote with Harry Truman and Alvin Barkley, one of our own here, advised him to make Israel a nation. And we got into that with Barkley and Truman, and we've been pretty well friends with Israel up until now. And I still think that the Bible tells you those who bless Israel, God will bless, and those who curse Israel, God will curse. We need to heed to what we need to do for Israel.
But the other side of the coin is to we have an interest in all mankind and not to be hostile, or tolerant of their beliefs and what they want to do. And not try to interfere in every little thing.
If we get to be energy dependent, I mean, independent, and not dependent on theirs, that will give us a big leg up on not having to deal with some of the this in the manner we have in the past, like desperation for oil. But anyway, that's one reason I think it's time for each Congressman to have a council. It's time for people that know these things to be the ones to make decisions, rather than to sell out to the highest bidder in Washington, you know, on some kind of legal law or war game or war effort that we need to do, and then have the American people have to have Haliburton rebuild it at a cost plus that is astronomical. When you hire people at cost plus, they have a tendency to run the cost up. That's how they make the money.
12. International sanctions have been imposed against Iran out of a concerned shared by many countries that Iran might obtain nuclear weapons. What steps should the United States take to make sure Iran does not acquire those kinds of weapons?
Well, on Ross Perot -- I'm sorry, Ron Paul, I'll get it right here in a minute. He says if we got all these bombs, surely they can have one. Well, I think, Israel has made it plain with the little drawing the prime minister drew where if it gets to this point we're actually going to do something about it. And I think we need to let Israel do that and back 'em up if anybody tries to attack Israel. I personally don't think the United States needs to be the first one to go after 'em. We - that should be a problem. Let them try their best to work all that out. I don't really want us to get in that unless we have to to back Israel up. But Iran has been a thorn in our side, but you look at what happened year's ago. The Shah of Iran came here after he stole the people's money. The United States made, was the sanctuary for him to come to, so there's a lot of hatred towards us because of that. If we can diplomatically work that out, it would be great, or postpone it. If it happens that war has to happen there and Israel does strike, we need to back 'em up. But this is one where we need a lot of prayer warriors because, you know, this could be really a big one if we get all the superpowers in on this one. It's my fear, however, right now, it seems to be there's pretty well tolerance on Iran to a certain extent. It's just Israel is not going to take it too much longer if they don't see some signs of a give-in here.
13. Are there any other issues you would like to discuss?
Well, I want us to not be so intimidated. Now we want to be politically correct in everything that we do. You know, I think the last person to lead a prayer in Jesus name was E.V. Hill, and he's been dead a while. You know, we've got where we're ashamed to say anything for fear that it's going to offend somebody. But I really think that western Kentucky and our district here, we have a Christian district. I think we need to be tolerant and compassionate to people, but also, I don't think we need to be afraid to pray in public when we can or if we don't, to at least pray to the God of Bible in Jesus name. You know, 'cause I think we're at the point right now that we need, we need God in it if we're gonna win it. We shut him out really since the '90s. Mitch McConnell at the Fancy Farm picnic a couple years ago, he had a moment of silence about, I guess it was the SEALS died that day. He asked for a moment of silence. I think we need to be back like we used to. We saw the President even use scriptures where the incident happened in Colorado, at the killings out there in the theater, and then he's even used that when the bodies came back from where they attacked the embassy there, where he said scriptures about. Of course, the one he used in Colorado was God will wipe away all tears, and the scriptures he used in the ones where the embassy had been attacked, you know, there is no greater love than one that would give their life for a friend. So, I think we need to go back to using the right message with Christian beliefs as well as Jewish beliefs. And we do need to tolerate all the different people's beliefs because that's the way our country is formed. But not be so intimidated on the Christian side to not do something for fear that this is going to cause someone to be offended.
And our district's always been pretty strong. Alvin Barkley, I guess, he was our greatest influence in Washington. Of course, we have a lot of things he did for us. But he said in his last words, I'd rather be a servant in the house of the Lord than to sit in the seats of the mighty. So, he had the pecking order right. We were one nation under God, and then, of course, family, and then country. I think that's the way that we need to go again. And I think that we need to be patriotic enough that we're willing to sacrifice for our country and not take advantage of it.
We go too many people trying to make theirselves a bottom-line millionaire rather than taking care of helping the country to stay afloat. And we just have to, a lot of things we need to change the attitude and be more givers than takers.
14. Is there anything else you would like voters to know about you?
Well, probably if I told 'em everything, they would vote for me. No, I'm human. I make mistakes. I want to try to be helpful, but that's one reason I want to try to have a council. The older I get, the more I realize I don't know as much as I think I do.